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wheels and wills of father and son...

And measures and matters of The Truth of the "time" we are in ...how "man" ..."thought to change time and times ...

Dearly beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, how that one day is with the Lord, as a thousand year, and a thousand year as one day.

The Lord is not slack to fulfil his promise, as some men count slackness: but is patient to us ward, and would have no man lost, but would receive all men to repentance.

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     Behold in a dream during the nightmare of the dark season ...of the times and time ..of the season of man ...see son of man ...

     and i was taken and shown father and son ...

     evenso in spirit and in truth ...and not of the flesh.

     and below the son was wheels ...

     and the wheels were like upon the ground of the earth ...

     and the doings and the goings on of the earth... was the same.

     even the very same as the goings on and doings of the wheels.

     and upon the wheels so the son went ...

     and even as is ...was ...and well be ...the will of the father ...

     evenso was the son ...

     even as one ...

     and if the son rose up ...so rose the wheels ...

     and if the wheels touched the earth so touched the son the earth ...

     and again as the will of the father and the son were the same ...

     and the father watched and looked and loved on the son.

     even as the son did upon the father ...was the father to the son.

     even as the same in the going and coming whethersoever they went ...

     and of and in whatsoever was done ...to be done ...or will be done. 

 

and scripture came back to remembrance ...

 

THE GOSPELL OF ST. JOHN Chpt 14

 Philip said unto him: Lord show us the father, and it sufficeth us. Jesus said unto him, have I been so long time with you: and yet hast thou not known me? Philip, he that hath seen me, hath seen the father. And how sayest thou then: show us the father? Believest thou not that *I am in the father, and the father in me? The words that I speak unto you, I speak not of myself: but the father that dwelleth in me, is he that doeth the works. Believe me, **that I am in the father and the father in me. At the least believe me for the very works sake.
      Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believeth on me, the works that I do, the same shall he do, and greater works then these shall he do, because I go unto my father. And whatsoever ye ask in my name, that will I do, that the father might be glorified by the son. If ye shall ask any thing in my name, I will do it.
      If ye love me keep my commandments, and I will pray the father, and he shall give you another comforter, that he may bide with you ever: which is the spirit of truth whom the world cannot receive, because the world seeth him not, neither knoweth him. But ye know him. For he dwelleth with you, and shall be in you. I will not leave you comfortless: but will come to you.
      Yet a little while and the world seeth me no more: but ye shall see me. For I live and ye shall live. That day shall ye know that I am in my father, and you in me, and I in you.
      He that hath my commandments and keepeth them, the same is he that loveth me. And he that loveth me shall be loved of my father: and I will love him, and will show mine own self unto him. Judas said unto him (not Judas Iscarioth) Lord what is the cause that thou wilt show thyself unto us, and not unto the world? Jesus answered and said unto him: if a man love me and will keep my sayings, my father also will love him, and we will come unto him, and will dwell with him. He that loveth me not, keepeth not my sayings. And the words which ye hear, are not mine, but the fathers which sent me.
      This have I spoken unto you being yet present with you. But that comforter which is the holy ghost (whom my father will send in my name) he shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance whatsoever I have told you.
      Peace I leave with you, my peace I give unto you. Not as the world giveth, give I unto you. Let not your hearts be grieved, neither fear ye. Ye have heard how I said unto you: I go and come again unto you. If ye loved me, ye would verily rejoice, because I said, I go unto the father. For the father is greater then I. And now have I showed you, before it come, that when it is come to pass, ye might believe. Here after will I not talk many words unto you. For the ruler of this world cometh, and hath nought in me. But that the world may know that I love the father: therefore as the father gave me commandment, even so do I.
      Rise let us go hence

** note error in some other Tyndale New Testaments transliterations..RN

 That day shall ye know that I am in my father, and you in me, and I in you.

and I in you.

 But that the world may know that I love the father: therefore as the father gave me commandment, even so do I.
      Rise let us go hence
    

     

EZEKIEL or JEHEZEKIEL Chpt 1

  It chanced in the thirtieth year the fifth day of the fourth Month, that I was among the prisoners by the river of Cobar: where the heavens were opened, and I saw a vision of God. Now the fifth day of the month, made out the fifth year of King Joacins captivity. At the same time came word of the Lord unto Ezechiel the son of Buzi the priest, in the land of the Caldees by the water of Cobar, where the hand of the Lord came upon him.
      And I looked, and behold, a stormy wind came out of the North with a great cloud full of fire, which with his glistre lightening all round about. And in the midest of the fire it was all clear, and as it were the likeness of four beasts, which were fashioned like a man: saving that every one had four faces and four wings.
      Their legs were straight, But their feet were like bullocks feet, and they glistered, as it had been fair scoured metal. Under their wings upon all the four corners they had mens hands. Their faces and wings were toward the four corners: yet were the wings so, that one ever touched another. When they went, they turned them not about: but each one went straight forward.
      Upon the right side of these four, their faces were like the faces of a man, and the face of a Lion: But upon the left side, they had the face of an ox, and the face of an Eagle. Their faces also and their wings were spread out above: so that two wings of one touched ever two wings of another, and with the other they covered the body. Every one when it went, it went straight forward. Where as the spirit led them, *thither they went, and turned not about in their going.
       The fashion and the countenance of the beasts was like hot coals of fire, even as though burning *cressettes had been among the beasts: and the fire gave a gilister, and out of the fire there went lighting. When the beasts went forward and backward, one would have thought it had lighteninged. Now when I had well considered the beasts, I saw a work of wheels upon the earth with four faces also like the beasts.
      The fashion and the work of the wheels was like the sea. The four wheels were joined and made ( to look upon ) as it had been one wheel in another. When the one went forward, they went all four, and turned them not about in their going. They were large, great and horrible to look upon. Their bodies were full of eyes round about them all four. When the beasts went, the wheels went also with them: And when the beasts lift themselves up from the earth, the wheels were lift up also. Whither soever the spirit went, thither went they also, and the wheels were lift up, and followed them: for the spirit of life was in the wheels. When the beasts went forth, stood still, or lift themselves up from the earth: then the wheels also went, stood still, and were lift up, for the breath of life was in the wheels.
      Above over the heads of the beasts there was a firmament, which was fashioned as it had been of the most pure Crystal, and that was spread out above their heads: under the same firmament were their wings layed abroad, one toward another, and two wings covered the body of every beast. And when they went forth I heard the noise of their wings, like the noise of great waters, as it had been the voice of the great God, and the rushing together as it were of a host of men. And when they stood still, they let down their wings. Now when they stood still, and had let down their wings, it thundered in the firmament that was above their heads. Above the firmament that was over their heads, there was a fashion of a seat, as it had been made of Sapphire. Upon the seat there sat one like a man. I beheld him, and he was like a clear light, as it had been all of fire within from his loins upward.
      And beneath when I looked upon him under the loins, me thought he was like a shining fire, that giveth light on every side. Yee the shine and the glittereth lightening round about, was like a rainbow, which in a rainy day appeareth in the clouds. Even so was the similitude, wherein the glory of the Lord appeared. When I saw it, I fell upon my face, and harkened unto the voice of him that spake

*thither= to or toward that place or in that direction there, distant/
*cressettes= A metal cup, often suspended on a pole, containing burning oil or pitch and used as a torch.

EZEKIEL or JEHEZEKIEL Chpt 3

 After this said he unto me: Thou son of man, eat that, what forever it be: yee eat that closed book and go thy way, and speak unto the children of Israel. So I opened my mouth, and he gave me the book for to eat, said unto me: Thou son of man, thy belly shall eat, and thy bowels shall be filled with the book, that I give thee. Then did I eat the book, and it was in my mouth sweeter than honey. And he said unto me: thou son of man, get thee soon unto the house of Israel, and show them the words that I command thee: For I send thee not to the people that hath a strange, unknown, or hard speech, but unto the house of Israel, Not to many nations, which have diverse speeches and hard languages, whose words thou understand not. Nevertheless, if I sent thee to those people, they would follow thee: But the house of Israel will not follow thee, for they will not follow me: yee all the house of Israel have stiff foreheads, and hard hearts. Behold, therefore, I will make thy face prevail against their faces, and harden thy forehead against their foreheads: so that thy forehead shall be harder than an Adamant or flint stone: that thou may fearest them the less, and be less afraid of them, for they are a froward household.
      He said moreover unto me: thou son of man, take diligent heed with thy ears, to the words that I speak unto thee, fasten them in thine heart: and go to the prisoners of thy people, speak unto them, and say on this manner: Thus the Lord God hath spoken: whether ye hear or hear not. With that the spirit took me up. And I heard the noise of a great rushing and the removing of the most blessed glory of the Lord out of his place.
      I heard also the noise of the wings of the beasts, that rushed one against the other, yee and the rattling of the wheels, that were by them, which rushing and noise was very great.
      Now when the spirit took me up, and carried me away, I went with an heavy and sorrowful mind, but the hand of the Lord comforted me right soon.
      And so in the beginning of the month Abib, I came to the prisoners, that dwell by the water of Cobar, and remained in that place, where they were: And so continued I among them seven days, being very sorry.
      And when the seven days were expired, the Lord said unto me:Thou son of man, I have made thee a watchman unto the house of Israel: therefore take good heed to the words, and give them warning at my commandment.
      If I say unto thee, concerning the ungodly man, that ( without doubt ) he must die, and thou givest him not the warning, nor speakest unto him, that he may turn from his evil way, and so to live: Then shall the same ungodly man die in his own unrighteousness: but his blood will I require of thine hand. Nevertheless, if thou give warning unto the wicked, and he yet forsake not his ungodliness: then shall he die in his own wickedness, but thou hast discharged thy soul.
      Now if a righteous man go from his righteousness, and do the thing that is evil: I will lay a stumbling block before him, and he shall die, because thou hast not given him warning: yee die shall he in his own sin, so that the virtue, which he did before, shall not be thought upon: but his blood will I require of thine hand.
      Nevertheless, if thou exhorteth the righteous, that he sin not, and so the righteous do not sin : then shall he live, because he hath received thy warning, and thou hast discharged thy soul. And there came the hand of the Lord upon me, and he said unto me: Stand up, and go into the field, that I may there talk with thee.
      So when I had risen up, and gone forth into the field: Behold, the glory of the Lord stood there, like as I saw it afore, by the waters of Cobar.
      Then fell I down upon my face, and the spirit came in to me, which set me up upon my feet, and said thus unto me: Go thy way, and *sparre thyself in thine own house. Behold, ( O thou son of man ) there shall changes be brought for thee, to bring thee withal, so that thou shalt not escape out of them. And I will make thy tongue cleave to the roof of thy mouth, that thou shalt be dumb, and not be as a *chidet with them: for it is an abstinent household.
      But when I speak unto thee, then open thy mouth, and say: Thus sayeth the Lord God: who so heareth, let him hear: who so will not, let him leave: for it is an abstinent household

*sparre=the door shut tight; bolted *chidet=mildly reprimand

EZEKIEL or JEHEZEKIEL Chpt 10

And as I looked, behold, in the firmament that was above the cherubins there appeared the similitude of a stole of sapphire upon them: Then said he that sat therin, to him that had the linen rayment upon him: Creep in between the wheels that are under the Cherubins, and take thine hand full of hot coals out from between the Cherubins, and cast them over the city. And he crept in, that I might see.
      Now the Cherubins stood on the right side of the house, when the man went in, and the cloud filled the *innermer court. But the glory of the Lord removed from the Cherubins, and came upon the threshold of the house: so that the temple was full of clouds, and the court was full of the shine of the Lords glory. Yee and the sound of the Cherubins wings were heard into the fore court, like as it had been the voice of the almighty God, when he speaketh. Now when he had bidden the man that was clothed in linen, to go and take the hot coals from the midst of the wheels, which were under the Cherubins: he went and stood beside the wheels. Then the one Cherubin reached forth his hand from under the Cherubins, unto the fire that was between the Cherubins, and to take thereof, and to give it unto him that had on the linen raiment in his hand: which he took it, and went out. And under the wings of the Cherubins, there appeared the likeness of a mans hand: I saw also four wheels beside the Cherubins, so that by every Cherib stood a wheel. And the wheels were (to look upon) after the fashion of the precious stone of Tharsis: yet ( unto the sight ) were they fashioned and like, as if one wheel had been in another.
      When they went forth, they went all four together, not turning about in their going: But where the first went, thither they went also, so they turned not about in their going. Their whole bodies, their backs, their hands and wings, yee and the wheels also, were all full of eyes round about them all four. And I heard him call the wheels, Galgal (that is ) a round *boule. Every one of them had four faces: so that the one face was the face of a Cherub, the second of a man, the third of a lion, the fourth of an Eagle, and they were lifted up above. This is the beast, that I saw at the water of Cobar Now when the Cherubins went, the wheels went with them, and when the Cherubins shook their wings to lift themselves upward, the wheels remained not behind, but were with them also. Shortly, when they stood, these stood also: And when they were lift up, the wheels were lift up also with them, for the spirit of life was in the wheels.
      Then the glory of the Lord was lift up from the threshold of the temple, and remained upon the Cherubins: And the Cherubins flackered with their wings, and lift themselves up from the earth: so that I saw when they went, and the wheels with them. And they stood at the east side of the port that is in the house of the Lord. So the glory of the Lord was upon them. This is the beast that I saw under the God of Israel, by the water of Cobar. And I perceived, that it was the Cherubins. Every one had four faces and every one four wings, and under their wings, as it were mens hands. Now the figure of their faces was, even as I had seen them, by the water of Cobar, and so was the countenance of them: Every one in his going went straight forward

*innermer (innermost) *boule=legislature

EZEKIEL or JEHEZEKIEL Chpt 11

Moreover, the spirit of the Lord lift me up, and brought me unto the east port of the Lords house. And behold, there were twenty five men under the door among whom I saw Jaazaniah the son of Azur, and Pheltiah the son of Bananiah, the rulers of the people. Then said the Lord unto me: Thou son of man: these men imagine mischief, and a wicked counsel take they in this city, saying: Tush, there is no destruction at hand, let us build houses: this Jerusalem is the cauldron, and we be the flesh. Therefore shalt thou prophecy unto them, yee prophecy shalt thou unto them, O son of man. And with that fell the spirit of the Lord upon me, and said unto me: Speak, thus sayeth the Lord: On this manner have ye spoken ( O ye house of Israel ) and I know the imaginations of your hearts. Many one have ye murdered in this city, and filled the streets full of the slain. Therefore, thus sayeth the Lord God: The slain men that ye have layed on the ground in this city, are the flesh, and this city is the cauldron: But I will bring you out of it: ye have drawn out the sword, even so I also bring a sword over you, sayeth the Lord God. I will drive you out of this city and deliver you into your enemies hand, and will condemn you. Ye shall be slain in all the coasts of Israel, I will be avenged of you: to learn you for to know, that I am the Lord. This city shall not be your cauldron, neither shall ye be the flesh therin: but in the coasts of Israel will I punish you, that ye may know, that I am the Lord, in whos commandments ye have not walked, nor kept his laws: but you have done after the customs of the Heathen, that lie around about you.
      Now when I preached, Pheltiah the son of Bananiah died. Then fell I down upon my face, and cried with a loud voice: O' Lord God, wilt thou then utterly destroy all the remnant of Israel? And so the word of the Lord came to me on this manner: thou son of man: thy brethren, thy kinfolk, and the whole house of Juda, which dwell at Jerusalem, say: They be gone far from the Lord, but the land is given us in possession. Therefore tell them thus sayeth the Lord God: I will send you far off among the Gentiles, and scatter you among the nations, and I will hallow you but a little, in the lands where ye shall come. Tell them also, thus sayeth the Lord God: I will gather you again out of the nations, and bring you from the countries were ye be scattered, and will give you the land of Israel again: And thither shall ye come. And as for all impediments, and all your abominations: I will take them away.
      And I will give you one heart, and I will plant a new spirit within your bowels. That stony heart will I take out of your body, and give you a fleshly heart: that ye may walk in my commandments, and keep mine ordinances, and do them: that ye may be my people, and I your God. But look whose hearts are disposed to follow their abominations and wicked livings: those mens deeds will I bring upon their own heads, sayeth the Lord God. After this did the Cherubins lift up their wings, and the wheels went with them, and the glory of the Lord was upon them. So the glory of the Lord went up from the midst of the city, and stood upon the mount of the city toward the east. But the wind took me up, and in a vision ( which came by the spirit of God ) it brought me again into the Caldea among the prisoners. Then the vision that I had seen, vanished away from me. So I spake unto the prisoners, all the words of the Lord, which he had showed me

 

DANIEL Chpt 7

In the first year of Balthazar king of Babylon, saw Daniel a dream, and a vision was in his head upon his bed. Which dream he wrote, and the sum of the matter is this: Daniel spake and said: I saw in my vision by night, and behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the sea, and four great beasts came up from the sea, one unlike another.
      The first was as a lion, and yet had he *Aegles wings. I saw, that his wings were plucked from him, and he taken away from the earth: that he stood upon his feet as a man, and that there was given him a mans heart.
      Behold, the second beast was like a bear, and stood upon the one side. Among his teeth in his mouth he had three great long teeth, and it was said unto him: Arise, eat up, much flesh. Then I looked, and behold, there was another like unto a leopard: this had wings as a fowl, even four upon the back. This beast had four heads, and there was power given him. After this I saw in a vision by night, and behold, the fourth beast was grim and horrible, and marvelous strong. It had great iron teeth, it devoured and destroyed, and stamped the residue under his feet. It was far unlike the other beasts that were before it: for it had ten horns, whereof I took good heed.
      And behold, there came up among them, another like horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked away. Behold, this horn had eyes like a man, and a mouth speaking presumptuous things. I looked till the seats were prepared, and till the old aged sat him down. His clothing was white as snow, and the hairs of his head like the pure wool. His throne was like the fiery flame, and his wheels as the burning fire. There drew forth a fiery stream, and went out from him. A thousand times a thousand served him. Ten thousand times ten thousand stood before him. The judgment was set, and the books opened. Then took I heed there unto, because of the voice of the proud words, which the horn spake. I beheld, till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given over to be burnt in the fire.
      As for the power of the other beasts also, it was taken away, but their lives were prolonged for a time and season. I saw in vision by night, and behold, there came one in the clouds of heaven like the son of a man, which went unto the old aged, before whom they brought him: Then gave he him power and dignity regal, that all people, tribes, and tongues should serve him: His power is an everlasting power, which shall never be put down: and his kingdom endureth uncorrupt. My heart was vexed, and I Daniel had a troubled spirit within me, and the visions of my head made me afraid: till I got me to one of them that stood by, to know the truth, concerning all these things. So he told me, and made me understand the interpretation of these things.
      These four great beasts, are four kings which shall arise out of the earth. These shall take in the kingdom of the saints of the most highest, and possess it still more and more for a long season. After this I required diligently to know the truth, concerning the fourth beast, which was so far unlike the other beasts, and so horrible: whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass: which wounded and destroyed, and stamped the residue with his feet. I devised also to know the truth, as touching the ten horns that he had upon his head, and this other that came up afterward, before whos face there fell down three: which horn had eyes and a mouth that spoke presumptuous things, and looked with a grimmer visage than his fellows. I beheld, and the same horn made battle against the saints, yee and got victory of them till the time that the old aged came, that the judgement was given to the cheifest saints: and till the time, that the saints had the kingdom in possession. He gave me this answer: That forth beast shall be the fourth kingdom upon the earth: it shall be more than all other kingdoms, it shall devour, tread down, and destroy all other lands.
      The ten horns, are ten kings that shall arise out of the kingdom, after whom there shall stand up another, which shall be greater than the first. He shall subdue three kings, and shall speak words against the highest of all: he shall destroy the saints of the most highest, and think, that he may change times and laws. They shall be given under his power, until a time, two times, and a half a time.
      But the judgement shall be kept, so that his power shall be taken from him, for he shall be destroyed, and perish at the last. As for the kingdom, power and all might that is under heaven: it shall be given to the holy people of the most highest, whose kingdom is everlasting, yee all powers shall serve and obey him. Thus far extend the words. Nevertheless, I Daniel was so vexed in my thoughts, that my countenance changed, but the words I kept still in my heart     

     *Aegles (eagle) Note cap A and see Eagle in 4th Esdras and Revelation.

     

AHUM or NAUM Chpt 3     

 Woe to the blood thirsty city, which is all full of lies and robbery, and will not leave off of ravishing. There a man may hear scourging, rushing, the noise of the wheels, the crying of the horses, and the rolling of the chariots. There the horsemen get up with naked swords, and glittering spears: There layeth a multitude of slain, and a great heap of dead *coarses, yee men fall upon their bodies: And that for the great and many fold whoredom, of the fair and beautiful harlot: which is a mistress of witchcraft, yee and selleth the people through her whoredom, and the nations through her witchcraft.
      Behold, I will upon thee ( sayeth the Lord of hosts ) and will pull thy clothes over thy head: that I may show thy nakedness among the Heathen, and thy shame among the kingdoms. I will cast dirt upon thee, to make thee be abhorred, and a gazing stock: Yee all they that look upon thee, shall start back, and say: Ninive is destroyed.
      Who will have pity upon thee: where shall I seek one to comfort thee? Art thou better than the great city of Alexandria: that lay in the waters, and had the waters round about it: which was strongly fenced and walled with the sea? Ethiopia and Egypt were her strength, and that exceedingly great above measure. Africa and Libya were her helpers, yet was she driven away, and brought into captivity: her young children were smitten down at the head of every street, the lots were cast for the most ancient men in her, and all her mighty men were bound in chains. Even so shalt thou also be drunken, and hide thyself, and seek some help against thy enemy. All thy strong cities shall be like fig trees with ripe figs: which when a man shaketh, they shall fall into the mouth of the eater.
      Behold, thy people within thee are but women: the ports of thy land shall be open to thine enemies, and the fire shall devour thy barrs. Draw water now against thou be besieged, make up thy strongholds, go into the clay, temper the mortar, make strong brick: yet the fire shall consume thee, the sword shall destroy thee, yee as the locust doth, so shall it eat thee up. It shall fall heavily upon thee as the locusts, yee right heavily shall it fall upon thee, even as the grasshoppers. Thy merchants have been numbered with the stars of heaven: but now shall they spread abroad as the locusts, and flee their way: Thy lords are as the grasshoppers, and thy captains as the multitude of grasshoppers: which when they be cold, remain in the hedges: but when the Sun is up, they flee away, and no man can tell where they are become. Thy shepherds are asleep ( O king of Assur ) thy worthies are laid down: thy people is scattered abroad upon the mountains, and no man gathereth them together again. Thy wound cannot be healed, thy plague is so sore. All they that hear this of thee, shall clap their hands over thee. For what is he, to whom thou hast not always been doing hurt

*coarses= corpses ..courses; manner of proceeding or developing;

     

     

     

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