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place in the forest or the woods 

of love and truth or lust of the flesh...

And measures and matters of The Truth of the "time" we are in ...how "man" ..."thought to change time and times ...

Dearly beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, how that one day is with the Lord, as a thousand year, and a thousand year as one day.

The Lord is not slack to fulfil his promise, as some men count slackness: but is patient to us ward, and would have no man lost, but would receive all men to repentance.

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     Behold in a dread nightmare of the dark season ...of the times and time ..of the season of man ...see son of man ...

and i was taken and shown a place of passions ...

even in the wilderness...

and the grass was all laid over and matted down ...

even as though there had been a wrestling ...

and there came a measuring of matters ...

was this a place in the forest ...for rest ... 

and was this a place of lovers ...of love and truth...

and passions of the same for one another ...

even coupled together of God and Jesus.

OR was it the woods ...of woodenness ...

and a place of lust of the eye lust of the flesh ...

and the twisting of the flesh in the throws of wanton wickedness ...

nevertheless the people knew ...

and the man knew ...

and the woman knew ...

and God knows ...

and Jesus knows ...

and the angels knew ...

 

and scripture came back to remembrance ...

 

     ST. PAUL TO THE ROMANS Chpt 7

 Remember ye not brethren (I speak to them that know the law) how that the law hath power over a man as long as it endureth? For the woman which is in subjection to a man, is bound by the law to the man, as long as he liveth. If the man be dead, she is loosed from the law of the man. So then if while the man liveth she couple herself with another man, she shall be counted a wedlock breaker. But if the man be dead, she is free from the law: so that she is no wedlock breaker, though she couple herself with another man.
      Even so ye my brethren, are dead concerning the law by the body of Christ, that ye should be coupled to another (I mean to him that is risen again from death) that we should bring forth fruit unto God. For when we were in the flesh, the lusts of sin which were stirred up by the law reigned in our members, to bring forth fruit unto death. But now are we delivered from the law and dead from that whereunto we were in bondage that we should serve in a new conversation of the spirit, and not in the old conversation of the letter.
      What shall we say then? is the law sin?. God forbid: but I knew not what sin meant but by the law. For I had not known what lust had meant, except the law had said, thou shalt not lust. But sin took an occasion by the means of the commandment and wrought in me all manner of *concupiscence. For verily without the law, sin was dead. I once lived without law. But when the commandment came, sin revived, and I was dead. And the very same commandment which was ordained unto life, was found to be unto me an occasion of death. For sin took occasion by the means of the commandment, and so deceived me, and by the self commandment slew me. Wherefore the law is holy, and the commandment holy, just and good.
      Was that then which is good, made death unto me? God forbid. Nay sin was death unto me, that it might appear, how that sin by the means of that which is good, had wrought death in me: that sin which is under the commandment, might be out of measure sinful. For we know that the law is spiritual: but I am carnal, sold under sin, because I *wot not what I do. For what I would, that do I not: but what I hate, that do I. If I do now that which I would not, I grant to the law that it is good. So then now, it is not I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me. For I know that in me (that is to say in my flesh) dwelleth no good thing. To will is present with me: but I find no means to perform that which is good. For I do not that good thing which I would but that evil do I, which I would not. Finally if I do that I would not, then is it not I that do it, but sin that dwelleth in me, doeth it. I find then by the law that when I would do good, evil is present with me. I delight in the law of God, concerning the inner man. But I see another law in my members rebelling against the law of my mind, and subduing me unto the law of sin, which is in my members. O wretched man that I am: who shall deliver me from this body of death? I thank God through Jesus Christ our Lord. So then I myself in my mind serve the law of God, and in my flesh the law of sin

     *concupiscence: strong desire; lust of the flesh, lust of the eye and/or pride of goods.
*wot (know)

ST. PAUL TO THE ROMANS Chpt 8

For they that are carnal, are carnally minded. But they that are spiritual, are ghostly minded. To be carnally minded, is death. But to be spiritually minded is life and peace.
      Because that the fleshly mind is *emnity against God: for it is not obedient to the law of God, neither can be. So then they that are given to the flesh, cannot please God.
      But ye are not given to the flesh, but to the spirit: if so be that the spirit of God dwell in you. If there be any man that hath not the spirit of Christ, the same is none of his. If Christ be in you, the body is dead because of sin: but the spirit is life for righteousness sake. Wherefore if the spirit of him that raised up Jesus from death, dwell in you: even he that raised up Christ from death, shall quicken your mortal bodies, because that this spirit dwelleth in you.
      Therefore brethren we are now debtors, not to the flesh, to live after the flesh. For if ye live after the flesh, ye must die. But if ye mortify the deeds of the body, by the help of the spirit, ye shall live. For as many as are led by the spirit of God: they are the sons of God. For ye have not received the spirit of bondage to fear any more, but ye have received the spirit of adoption whereby we cry Abba father. The same spirit certifieth our spirit that we are the sons of God. If we be sons, we are also heirs, the heirs I mean of God, and heirs annexed with Christ if so be that we suffer together, that we may be glorified together.
      For I suppose that the afflictions of this life, are not worthy of the glory which shall be showed upon us. Also the fervent desire of the creatures abideth looking when the sons of God shall appear, because the creatures are subdued to vanity against their will: but for his will which subdueth them in hope. For the very creatures shall be delivered from the bondage of corruption into the glorious liberty of the sons of God. For we know that every creature groaneth with us also, and travaileth in pain even unto this time.
      Not they only, but even we also which have the first fruits of the spirit, mourn in ourselves and wait for the (adoption) and look for the deliverance of our bodies. For we are saved by hope. But hope that is seen is no hope. For how can a man hope for that which he seeth? But and if we hope for that we see not, then do we with patience abide for it.
      Likewise the spirit also helpeth our infirmities. For we know not what to desire as we ought: but the spirit maketh intercession mightily for us with groanings which cannot be expressed with tongue. And he that searcheth the hearts, knoweth what is the meaning of the spirit: for he maketh intercession for the saints according to pleasure of God.
      For we know that all things work for the best unto them that love God, which also are called of purpose. For those which he knew before, he also ordained before, that they should be like fashioned unto the shape of his son, that he might be the first begotten son among many brethren. Moreover which he appointed before them he also called. And which he called, them also be justified, which he justified, them he also glorified.
      What shall we then say to these things? If God be on our side: who can be against us? which spared not his own son, but gave him for us all: how shall he not with him give us all things also? Who shall lay anything to the charge of Gods chosen? it is God that justifieth: who then shall condemn? it is Christ which is dead, yee rather which is risen again, which is also on the right hand of God, and maketh intercession for us.
      Who shall separate us from the love of God? shall tribulation? or anguish? or persecution? other hunger? either nakedness? either peril? either sword? As it is written: For thy sake are we killed all day long, and are counted as sheep appointed to be slain. Nevertheless in all these things we overcome strongly through his help that loved us. Ye and I am sure that neither death, neither life, neither Angels, nor rule, neither power, neither things present, neither things to come, neither height, neither lowth, neither any other creature shall be able to depart us from the love of God, showed in Christ *Jesu our Lord

     THE BOOK OF WISDOM Chpt 6

  Wisdom is better then strength, and a man of understanding is more worth than one that is strong. Hear therefore ( O' ye Kings ) and understand: O' learn ye that be judges of the ends of the earth. Give ear, ye that rule the multitudes, and delight much people. For power is given you of the Lord, and the strength from the Highest: which shall try your works and search out your imaginations: How that ye being officers of his Kingdom, have not kept the law of righteousness, nor walked after his will. Horribly and that right soon shall he appear unto you: for an hard judgment shall they have that bear rule. Mercy is granted unto the simple, but they that be in authority shall be sore punished. For God which is Lord over all, shall except no mans person, neither shall he stand in awe of any mans greatness: for he hath made the small and great, and careth for all alike. But the mighty shall have the sorer punishment.
      Unto you therefore ( O' Kings ) do I speak, that ye may learn wisdom and not go amiss: For they that keep righteousness shall be righteously judged: and they that are learned in righteous things, shall find to make answer. Wherefore set your lust upon my words, and love them, so shall ye come by nurture. Wisdom is a noble thing, and never fadeth away: yee she is easily seen of them that love her, and found of such as seek her. She preventeth them that desire her, that she may first show herself unto them. Whoso awaketh unto her by times, shall have no great travail, for he shall find her sitting ready at his doors. To think upon her, is perfect understanding: and whoso watcheth for her, shall be safe, and that soon. For she goeth about, seeking such as are *mete for her, showeth herself cheerfully unto them in their goings, and meeteth them with all diligence. For the unfeigned desire for reformation is her beginning: to care for nurture is love, and love is the keeping of her laws. Now the keeping of the laws is perfection and an uncorrupt life, an uncorrupt life maketh a man familiar with God. And so the desire of wisdom leadeth to the Kingdom everlasting. If your delight be then in royal seats and scepters ( O' ye kings of the people ) set your lust upon wisdom, that ye may reign for evermore. O' love the light of wisdom, all ye that be rulers of the people. As for wisdom what she is, and how she came up I will tell you, and will not hide the mysteries of God from you: but will seek her out from the beginning of the nativity, and bring the knowledge of her into light, and will not keep back the truth: Neither will I do with consuming envy, for such a man shall not be partaker of wisdom. But the multitude of the wise is the welfare of the world, and a wise king is the upholding of the people. O' receive nurture then through my words, and it shall do you good.

     

     THE BOOK OF WISDOM Chpt 1

  O' set your affection upon wisdom, ye that be judges of the earth. Have a good opinion of the Lord, and seek him in the singleness of heart. For he will be found of them that tempt him not, and appeareth unto such as put their trust in him. As for *froward thoughts, they separate from God, but virtue ( if it be allowed ) reformeth the unwise. And why? Wisdom shall not enter in a froward soul, nor dwell in the body that is subdued unto sin. For the holy spirit abhoreth fained nurture, and with draweth himself from the thoughts that are without understanding: and where wickedness hath the upper hand, he flyeth from thence. For the spirit of wisdom is loving, gentle and gracious, and will have no pleasure in him that speaketh evil with his lips. For God is witness of his reins, and a true searcher out of his heart, and a hearer of his tongue. For the spirit of the Lord filleth the round compass of the world, and the same that upholdeth all things, hath knowledge also of the voice.
      Therefore he that speaketh unrighteous things, cannot be hid, neither may he escape the judgement of reproof. And why? Inquisition shall be made for the thoughts of the ungodly, and the report of his words shall come unto God, so that his wickedness shall be punished. For the ear of jealousy heareth all things, and the noise of grudgings, shall not be hid. Therefore beware of murmurings which is nothing worth, and refrain your tongue from *sclander. For there is no word so secret, that it shall go for nought: and the mouth that speaketh lies, slayeth the soul.
      O' seek not your own death in the error of your life, destroy not yourselves through the works of your own hands. For God hath not made death, neither hath he pleasure in the destruction of the living. For he created all things, that they might have their being: yee all the people of the earth hath he made that they should have health, that there is no destruction in them, and that the kingdom of hell should not be upon the earth ( for righteousness is everlasting and immortal, but unrighteousness bringeth death ) Nevertheless, the ungodly call her unto them both with words and works, and while they think to have a friend of her, they come to naught: for the ungodly that are confederate with her and take her part are worthy of death

     THE SECOND TO TIMOTHYE Chpt 2

      Lusts of youth avoid, and follow righteousness, faith, love and peace, with them that call on the Lord with pure heart. Foolish and unlearned questions put from thee, remembering that they do but gender strife. But the servant of the Lord must not strive: but must be peaceable unto all men, and apt to teach, and one that can suffer the evil in meekness, and can inform them that resist, if that God at any time will give them repentance for to know the truth: that they may come to them selves again out of the snare of the devil, which are now taken of him at his will.

THE PSALMS Chpt 104

 The trees of the Lord are full of sap, even the trees of Lebanus which he hath planted. There make the birds their nests, and the fair hills are the dwelling place for the stork. The high hills are a refuge for the wild goats, and so are the stony rocks for the conies.
      Thou hast appointed the Moon for certain seasons, the Sun knoweth his going down. Thou makest the darkness, that it may be night, wherein all the beasts of the forest do move.

 

     

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