And measures and matters of The Truth of the "time" we are in ...how "man" ..."thought to change time and times ... missiles and math ...real numbers and counting ...
Dearly beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, how that one day is with the Lord, as a thousand year, and a thousand year as one day. The Lord is not slack to fulfil his promise, as some men count slackness: but is patient to us ward, and would have no man lost, but would receive all men to repentance. creteis@yahoo.com Behold in a nightmare of the dark season ...of the times and time ..of the season of man ...see son of man ...
and i was taken and shown ...a place ...where decisions are made ...of measures of matters ...of and in and for the world of the worldly ...
and there was a vast table and several people around about sitting ...
and they all ...every each one talked about ...numbers ...and all of every each one ...had numbers and plans and proposals ...based on numbers ...
and behold and even had happened ...that all had known about ...namely a missile launch ...
nevertheless the missile launch had been a very wrong thing ...and the worse of consequences ...could be seen as a result of the launch ...
and the whole measure of matters ...again ...to the place that had made the decision before ...to launch ...
Now was the worse consequences before them ...
and there was much anger ..and blaming ...against the one who "had the numbers" ...that seemed before to prove ...and to approve the launch of the missile...
and the more ...for the numbers also ...proved up ...according to the "mathematical"... "model" ...that the launch was the thing to do ...
evenso and again ...most all were sore displeased with the one or the two ...of the several ...who sat roundabout the table ...that had made such a mistake ...in and of ...with the numbers ...with which...they had proven ...the thing ...
and so it was that all things ...every measure of every matter ...had to be looked at in such a way ... a way ...the way of the world ...that it was to be proven ...of the numbers ...the model of the mathematics ...
even whethersoever any thing ...or any one ...or ever how many ...might have life ...would live ...even what measure of living ...would have ...
and also the measure of their dieing ...even unto death ...all of all things ...all ...according to the measure of the mathematical model ...of man ...
and Yet ...there came ...there was ...there is ...another man who came ...and spoke of the measures of matters of God our father ...
and he had all the "measures of matters" of God .... Jesus our brother and Lord ...and savior ...
and the measures of matters of God given to us simply ...and correct to the last place ...no matter how far the numbers are run out ...
THE FOURTH BOOK OF ESDRAS Chpt 4
And he said unto me: Stand up upon the right side, and I shall expound the similitude unto thee. So I stood, and behold, an hot burning oven went over before me: and it happened when the flame was gone by, the smoke had the upper hand. After this there went over before me a watery cloud, and sent down much rain with a storm: and when the stormy rain was past the drops remained still. Then said he unto me: like as the rain is more than the drops, and as the fire exceedeth the smoke, even so the measure of the things that are past, hath the upper hand. Then went the drops and the smoke above: and I prayed and said: May I live (thinkest thou) until that time? Or what shall happen in those days? He answered me, and said: As for the tokens whereof thou ask me, I may tell thee of them in a part: but as touching thy life, I may not show thee, for I am not sent therefore.
Nevertheless, as concerning the tokens, mark this: Behold, the days shall come, that they which dwell upon the earth, shall be taken in a great number, and the way of the truth shall be hid, and the land shall be barren from faith: but iniquity will have the upper hand, like as thou have seen now, and as thou hast heard long ago. And the land that thou seest now to have rule, shall thou shortly see waste. But if God grant thee to live, thou shalt see after the third trumpet, that the sun shall suddenly shine again in the night, and the moon three times in the day, and blood shall drop out of wood, and the stone shall give his voice, and the people shall be unquiet: and even shall rule, whom they hope not that dwell upon the earth, and the fowls shall flight, and the *Sodomitish sea shall cast out his fish, and make a noise in the night, which many shall not know, but they shall all hear the voice thereof.
There shall be a confusion also in many places, and the fire shall be often sent again, and the wild beasts shall go their way, and menstruous women shall bear monsters, and salt waters will be found in the sweat: one friend shall fight against another: then shall all wit and understanding be hid and put into their secret places, and shall be sought of many, and yet not be found: then shall unrighteousness and voluptuousness have the upper hand upon the earth. One land shall also ask another, and say: Is righteousness gone through thee? And it shall say: No, at the same time shall men hope, but nothing obtain: they shall labor but their wages shall not prosper. To show thee such tokens I have leave, and if thou wilt pray again, and weep as now, and fast seven days, thou shalt hear yet greater things. Then I awaked, and a fearfulness went through all my body, and my mind was feeble and careful, so that I almost sounded withal. So the angel that was come to talk with me, held me, comforted me, and set me up upon my feet.
Unto every one of us is given grace according to the measure of the gift of Christ. Wherefore he saith: He is gone up on high, and hath led captivity captive, and hath given gifts unto men. That he ascended: what meaneth it, but that he also descended first into the lowest parts of the earth? He that descended, is even the same also that ascended up, even above all heavens, to fulfil all things.
And the very same made some Apostles, some Prophets, some Evangelists, some Shepherds, some Teachers: that the saints might have all things necessary to work and minister with all, to the edifying of the body of Christ, till we every one (in the unity of faith, and knowledge of the son of God) grow up unto a perfect man, after the measure of age of the fullness of Christ. That we henceforth be no more children, wavering and carried with every wind of doctrine, by the *wiliness of men and craftiness, whereby they lay wait for us to deceive us. But let us follow the truth in love, and in all things grow in him which is the head, that is to say Christ, in whom all the body is coupled and knit together in every joint wherewith one ministereth to another (according to the operation as every part hath his measure) and increaseth the body, unto the edifying of itself in love.
This I say therefore and testify in the Lord, that ye henceforth walk not as other Gentiles walk, in vanity of their mind, blinded in their understanding, being strangers from the life which is in God through the ignorancy that is in them, because of the blindness of their hearts, which being past repentance, have given themselves unto wantonness, to work all manner of uncleanness, even with greediness. But ye have not so learned Christ, if so be ye have heard of him and are taught in him, even as the truth is in Jesu. So then as concerning the conversation in time past, lay from you that old man, which is corrupt through the deceivable lusts, and be ye renewed in the spirit of your minds, and put on that new man, which after the image of God is shapen in righteousness and true holiness. Wherefore put away lying, and speak every man truth unto his neighbor, for as much as we are members one of another.
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