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The Truth of the "time" we are in ...

inside the church...

And measures and matters of The Truth of the "time" we are in ...how "man" ..."thought to change time and times ...

inside the church...above the alter....

 

 

Dearly beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, how that one day is with the Lord, as a thousand year, and a thousand year as one day. The Lord is not slack to fulfil his promise, as some men count slackness: but is patient to us ward, and would have no man lost, but would receive all men to repentance.

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     Behold in a nightmare of the dark season ...of the times and time ..of the season of man ...see son of man ...

      and i was taken and shown a man ...

      and a seeing ...

      even seeing from within ...within a church ...

      and the seeing was from high above the altar of the church ...

      and even high above ...the high place where the pastor preached from ...down upon the people ...

      and the seeing ...was looking downward and toward the doors ...of the coming into the church ...

      and the high and thick walls of the place were garnished with ...stained ...glass windows ...

      and the windows were high above the peoples heads ...

      and even down to the isles where they walked ...

      and the light of the ...stained ...glass windows ...was the light...

      and that of the artificial lights ...these was the light ... upon all who came into the church ...

      nevertheless from this place high above all that was of ...and in the church ...

      and looking down upon all that was builded with mens hands ...

      and all the peoples sitting in the rows ...according to their station in the church ...

      even from the richest and most power full ...

      even to the least ...and the stranger ...way in the back ...

      and was able to look ...even to every each measure of any matter ...of any ...within ...

      even all the goings on ...within every each one ....

      and within ...within the church ...

      even the secret things ...

      and the things thought hidden ...

      evenso the one seeing ...from above it all ...appeared as a man ...

      and he began to speak ...

      and the man said "would God the father save any without Jesus ?"

      and the man said "would Jesus save any without God the father ?"

      and the man said "would God the father and Jesus save any without the truth  ?"

      and the man said "even the spirit of the truth ?"

      and the man said "can anyone be saved and kept safe with lies ?"

      and the man said "can anyone be saved and kept safe by any religion ?"

      and the man said "of spirit and truth there is no word "religion" ...not even in all the word of God .."

      and the man said "can anyone be saved and kept safe by by a "pastor" of a church ?"

      and the man said "of spirit and truth there is no title or station of "pastor" found ...not even in all the word of God ..."

      and the man said "of spirit and truth ...the true "shepherd" has been taken away ..."

      and the man said "of spirit and truth ...and the true shepherd replaced ...by a "pastor" of religion "

      and the man said "can anyone be saved and kept safe by coming into this church ?"

      and the man said "can anyone be saved and kept safe with ceremonies of man  ?"

      and the man said "can anyone be saved and kept safe upon this altar of this church ?"

      and the man hoped in spirit and truth ...that any leaving the church ...

      even upon opening ...the doors of the church ...from the inside out ...

      even that once the doors were open to leave ...

      even that any would walk out of the church ....

      even into the Son light ...

 

and scripture came back to remembrance ...

 

**an update given the next day ...the day following upon the other ...another measure of matters not to forget ...

of the spirit and truth

 

THE SECOND TO THE THESSALONIANS Chpt 2

Remember ye not, that when I was yet with you, I told you these things? And now ye know what withholdeth: even that he might be uttered at his time. For the mystery of that iniquity doth he already work: till he which now only letteth, be taken out of the way. And then shall that wicked be uttered, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the appearance of his coming even him whose coming is by the working of Satan, with all lying power, signs and wonders: and in all deceivableness of unrighteousness, among them that perish: because they received not the love of the truth, that they might have been saved. And therefore God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe lies: that all they might be damned which believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness.
 

THE FIRST EPISTLE OF ST. JOHN Chpt 1

 And this is the tidings which we have heard of him and declare unto you, that God is light and in him is no darkness at all. If we say that we have fellowship with him, and yet walk in darkness, we lie, and do not the truth. But and if we walk in (light) even as he is in light, then have we fellowship with him, and the blood of Jesus Christ his son cleanseth us from all sin.
 

THE FIRST EPISTLE OF ST. JOHN Chpt 2

And ye have an ointment of the holy ghost, and ye know all things. I wrote not unto you, as though ye knew not the truth: but as though ye knew it, and know also that no lie cometh of truth. Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is Christ? The same is the Antichrist that denieth the father and the son. Whosoever denieth the son, the same hath not the father. Let therefore abide in you that same which ye heard from the beginning. If that which ye heard from the beginning, shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the son, and in the father. And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
 

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THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES Chpt 17

 Paul stood in the midst of Marce street and said: ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. For as I passed by and beheld the manner how ye worship your gods, I found an altar wherein was written: unto the unknown God. Whom ye then ignorantly worship him show I unto you: God that made the world and all that are in it, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, he dwelleth not in temples made with hands, neither is worshipped with mens hands, as though he needed of any thing, seeing he himself giveth life and breath to all men everywhere, and hath made of one blood all nations of men, for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath assigned before, how long time, and also the ends of their inhabitation, that they should seek God, if they might feel and find him, though he be not far from every one of us. For in him we live, move and have your being, as certain of your own Poets said. For we are also his generation. For as much then as we are the generation of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, silver or stone, graven by craft and imagination of man.
      And the time of this ignorance God regarded not. but now he biddeth all men everywhere repent, because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world according to righteousness, by that man whom he hath appointed, and hath offered faith to all men, after that he had raised him from death.
 

THE BOOK OF WISDOM Chpt 13

But unhappy are they, and among the dead is their hope, that call them Gods, which are but the works of mens hands: gold, silver, and the thing that is found out by conning, the similitude of beasts, or any vain stone that hath been made by hand of old. Or as when a carpenter cutteth down a tree out of the wood, and pareth the bark of it conningly: and so with the one part maketh a vessel to be used, and *dighteth meat with the residue. As for the other part that is left, which is profitable for nothing ( for it is a crooked piece of wood and full of knobs, he carveth it diligently through his vanity, and according to the knowledge of his conning ) he giveth it some proportion, fashioneth it after the similitude of a man, or maketh it like some beast, streak it over with red, and painteth it, and look what foul spot is in it he casteth some color upon it.
      Then maketh he a convenient tabernacle for it, setteth it in the wall, and maketh it fast with iron, providing so for it, least it happen to fall: for it is well known, that it can not help itself: And why? it is but an image, and must of necessity be helped.
      Then goeth he and offereth of his goods unto it, for his children and his wife: he seeketh help at it, he asketh counsel at it: he is not ashamed to speak unto it that hath no soul: for health, he maketh his petition unto him that is sick: for life, he prayeth unto him that is dead: he calleth upon him for help, that is not able to help himself: and to send him a good journey, he prayeth him that may not go. And in all the things that he taketh in hand ( whether it be to obtain anything or to work ) he prayeth unto him that can do no manner of good.

THE BOOK OF WISDOM Chpt 14

 For in the old time also, when the proud giants perished, he ( in whom the hope was left to increase the world ) went into the ship, which was governed through thy hand, and so left seed behind him unto the world. For happy is the tree where through righteousness cometh: but cursed is the image of wood, that is made with hands, yee both it and he that made it. He, because he made it: and it because it was called God, where as it is but a frail thing. For the ungodly and his ungodliness are both like abominable unto God. Even so the work and he that made it also shall be punished together. Therefore shall there a plague come upon the images of the Heathen: for out of the creature of God they are become an abomination, a temptation unto the souls of men, and a snare for the feet of the unwise. And why the seeking out of images is the beginning of whoredom, and the bringing up of them is the destruction of life. For they were not from the beginning, neither shall they continue forever. The wealthy idleness of men hath found them out upon the earth, therefore shall they come shortly to an end.
      For a father mourned for his son that was taken away from him, he made an image ( in all the hast ) of his dead son: and so began to worship him as God, which was but a dead man, and *ordained his servants to offer unto him. Thus by process of time and through long custom, this error was kept as a law, and tyrants compelled men by violence to honor images. As for those that were so far off, that men might not worship them presently, their picture was brought from far, like the image of a King whom they would honor, to the intent that with great diligence they might worship him which was far off, as though he had been present. Again, the singular conning of the craftsman gave the ignorant also a great occasion to worship images. For the workman willing to do him a pleasure that set him a work, labored with all his conning to make the image of the best fashion. And so ( through the beauty of the work ) the common people was deceived, in so much that they took him now for a God, which alittle afore was honored as a man. And this was the error of mans life, when men ( either for to serve their own affection, or to do some pleasure unto Kings ) ascribed unto stones and stocks the name of God, which ought to be given unto no man.
      Moreover, this was not enough for them that they erred in the knowledge of God: but where as they lived in the great wars of ignorance, those many and great plagues called they peace. For either they slew their own children, and offered them, or did sacrifice in the night season, or else held unreasonable watches: so that they kept neither life ner marriage clean: but either one slew another to death maliciously or else grieved his neighbor with *advoutry. And thus were all things mixed together: blood manslaughter, theft, dissimulation, corruption, unfaithfulness, sedition, perjury, disquietness of good men, unthankfulness, defiling of souls, changing of birth, unsteadfastness of marriage, misorder of *advoutry and uncleanness. And why? the honoring of abominable images is the cause, the beginning and end of all evil. For they worship Idols, either they are mad when they be merry, or prophesy lies, or live ungodly, or else lightly foreswear themselves. For in so much as their trust is in the Idols ( which have neither souls ner understanding ) though they swear falsely, yet they think it shall not hurt them.
      Therefore cometh a great plague upon them, and that worthily: for they have an evil opinion of God, giving heed unto Idols, swearing unjustly to deceive, and despising righteousness. For their swearing is no virtue, but a plague of them that sin, and goeth ever with the offense of the ungodly.

THE GOSPELL OF ST. MARK Chpt 14

And the high Priests and all the council sought for witness against Jesu, to put him to death and found none. Yet many bare false witness against him, but their witness agreed not together. And there arose certain and brought false witness against him, saying. We heard him say: I will destroy this temple made with hands, and within three days I will build another, made without hands. But their witness agreed not together.
      And the highest Priest stood up amongst them, and asked Jesus saying: answerest thou nothing? How is it that these bear witness against thee? And he held his peace, and answered nothing. Again the highest Priest asked him, and said unto him: Art thou Christ the son of the blessed? And Jesus said: I am. And ye shall see the son of man sit on the right hand of power, and come in the clouds of heaven. Then the highest priest rent his clothes and said: what need we any further of witness? Ye have heard the blasphemy, what think ye? And they all gave sentence that he was worthy of death. And some began to spit at him, and to cover his face, and to beat him with fists, and to say unto him, *arede unto us. And the servants buffeted him on the face.
 

THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES Chpt 7

 Our fathers had the tabernacle of witness in the wilderness, as he had appointed them speaking unto Moses, that he should make it according to the fashion that he had seen. Which tabernacle our fathers received, and brought it in with Joshue into the possession of the Gentiles which God drave out before the face of our fathers unto the time of David, which found favour before God, and would faine have made a tabernacle for the God of Jacob. But Solomon built him an house.
      How be it he that is highest of all, dwelleth not in temples made with hands, as saith the Prophet: Heaven is my seat, and earth is my footstool, what house will ye build for me saith the Lord? or what place is it that I should rest in hath not my hand made all these things?
      Ye stiffnecked and of uncircumcised hearts and ears: ye have all ways resisted the holy ghost: as your fathers did, so do ye. Which of the Prophets have not your fathers persecuted? And they have slain them, which showed before of the coming of that *Just, whom ye have now betrayed and murdered. And ye also have received a law by the ordinance of Angels, and have not kept it.
      When they heard these things, their hearts clave asunder, and they gnashed on him with their teeth. But he being full of the holy ghost, looked up steadfastly with his eyes into heaven, and saw the glory of God, and Jesus standing on the right hand of God, and said: behold, I see the heavens open, and the son of man standing on the right hand of God. Then they gave a shout with a loud voice, and stopped their ears and ran upon him all at once, and cast him out of the city, and stoned him. And the witnesses laid down their clothes at a young mans feet named Saul. And they stoned Stephen calling on and saying: Lord Jesus receive my spirit. And he kneeled down and cried with a loud voice: Lord lay not this sin to their charge. And when he had thus spoken, he fell asleep.

THE ACTS OF THE APOSTLES Chpt 19

 The same time there arose no little ado about that way. For a certain man named Demetrius, a silversmith, which made silver shrines for Diana, was not a little beneficial unto the craftsmen. Which he called together with the workmen of like occupation, and said: Sirs, ye know that by this craft we have vantage. Moreover ye see and hear that not alone at Ephesus, but almost throughout all Asia, this Paul hath persuaded and turned away much people, saying that they be not gods which are made with hands. So that not only this our craft cometh into peril to be set at nought: but also that the temple of the great Goddess Diana should be despised, and her magnificence should be destroyed, which all Asia and the world worshippeth.
      When they heard these sayings, they were full of wrath, and cried out saying: Great is Diana of the Ephesians. And all the city was on a roar, and they rushed into the common hall with one assent, and caught Gaius and Aristarcus, men of Macedonia, Pauls companions. When Paul would have entered in unto the people, the disciples suffered him not. Certain also of the chief of Asia which were his friends, sent unto him, desiring him that he would not press into the common hall. Some cried one thing and some another, and the congregation was all out of quiet, and the more part knew not wherefore they were come together.
 

THE SECOND TO THE CORINTHIANS Chpt 5

We know surely if our earthy mansion wherein we now dwell were destroyed, that we have a building ordained of God, an habitation not made with hands, but eternal in heaven: And therefore sigh we, desiring to be clothed with our mansion which is from heaven: so yet if that we be found clothed, and not naked. For as long as we are in this tabernacle, we sigh and are grieved, for we would not be unclothed, but would be clothed upon, that mortality might be swallowed up of life. He that hath ordained us for this thing, is God: which very same hath given unto us the earnest of the spirit.
      Therefore we are always of good cheer, and know well that as long as we are at home in the body, we are absent from God. For we walk in faith and see not. Nevertheless we are of good comfort, and had *liefer to be absent from the body and to be present with the Lord. Wherefore, whether we be at home or from home we endeavor our selves to please him. For we must all appear before the judgement seat of Christ, that every man may receive the works of his body according to that he hath done, whether it be good or bad?
 

TO THE HEBREWS Chpt 9

But Christ being an high priest of good things to come, came by a greater and a more perfect tabernacle, not made with hands: that is to say, not of this manner building, neither by the blood of goats and calves: but by his own blood he entered once for all into the holy place, and found eternal redemption. For if the blood of oxen and of goats and the ashes of an heifer, when it was sprinkled, purified the unclean, as touching the purifying of the flesh: How much more shall the blood of Christ (which through the eternal spirit, offered him self without spot to God) purge your consciences from dead works for to serve the living God?
      And for this cause is he the mediator of the new testament, that through death which chanced for the redemption of those transgressions that were in the first testament, they which were called, might receive the promise of eternal inheritance. For wheresoever is a testament, there must also be the death of him that maketh the testament. For the testament taketh authority when men are dead: For it is of no value as long as he that made it, is alive. For which cause also, neither that first testament was ordained without blood. For when all the commandments were read of Moses unto all the people, he took the blood of calves and of goats, with water and purple wool and hyssop, and sprinkled both the book, and all the people, saying: this is the blood of the testament which God hath appointed unto you. Moreover, he sprinkled the tabernacle with blood also, and all the ministering vessels. And almost all things, are by the law, purged with blood, and with out shedding of blood is no remission.
      It is then need that the similitudes of heavenly things be purified with such things: but the heavenly things themselves are purified with better sacrifices than are those. For Christ is not entered into the holy places that are made with hands, which are but similitudes of true things: but is entered into very heaven, for to appear now in the sight of God for us: not to offer himself often, as the high priest entereth into the holy place every year with strange blood, for then must he have often suffered since the world began. But now in the end of the world, hath he appeared once, to put sin to flight, by the offering up of himself: And as it is appointed unto men that they shall once die, and then cometh the judgment, even so Christ was once offered to take away the sins of many, and unto them that look for him, shall he appear again without sin, unto salvation.

  

     

       

 

     

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