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ceremonies of wafers and wine...

And measures and matters of The Truth of the "time" we are in ...how "man" ..."thought to change time and times ...

Dearly beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, how that one day is with the Lord, as a thousand year, and a thousand year as one day.

The Lord is not slack to fulfil his promise, as some men count slackness: but is patient to us ward, and would have no man lost, but would receive all men to repentance.


     Behold in a dread nightmare of the dark season ...of the times and time ..of the season of man ...see son of man ...

and i was taken and shown a man.

and the man was alive and living.

and there came a group of people...

and they took the man.

and they took his flesh ...

and rolled it out in sheets.

and they took the meat of him and laid it on the sheets of his flesh.

and they put his flesh and his meat in the furnace.

and they made wafers of his flesh and the meat of him.

and they made wine of his blood.

and they all sat at the same table.

and they all ate the flesh and the meat of him.

and they lifted their cups up proudly ...and drank his blood ...

and they made a ceremony of him.


and scripture came back to remembrance...

 And Jesus said unto them: 

I am that bread of life. He that comes to me shall not hunger: and he that believes on me shall never thirst.


 Therefore let us love the doctrine pertaining to the beginning of a Christian man, and let us go unto perfection, and now no more lay the foundation of repentance from dead works, and of faith toward God, of baptism, of doctrine, and of laying on of hands, and of resurrection from death, and of eternal judgement. And so will we do, if God permit. For it is not possible that they which were once lighted, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were become partakers of the holy ghost, and have tasted of the good word of God, and of the power of the world to come: if they fall, should be renewed again unto repentance: for as much as they have (as concerning them selves) crucified the son of God afresh, making a mock of him.

kjv ...[1] Therefore leaving the principles of the doctrine of Christ, let us go on unto perfection;

niv...[1] Therefore let us leave the elementary teachings about Christ

rsv...[1] Therefore let us leave the elementary doctrine of Christ

nasb...[1] THEREFORE leaving the elementary teaching about the Christ

ylt ...[1] Wherefore, having left the word of the beginning of the Christ,

darby ...[1] Wherefore, leaving the word of the beginning of the Christ,


 And I say that the heir as long as he is a child, differeth not from a servant, though he be Lord of all, but is under tutors and governors, until the time appointed of the father. Even so we, as long as we were children, were in bondage under the ordinances of the world. But when the time was full come, God sent his son born of a woman and made bond unto the law, to redeem them which were under the law: that we through election might receive the inheritance that belongeth unto the natural sons. Because ye are sons, God hath sent the spirit of his son into our hearts, which crieth Abba father. Wherefore now, thou art not a servant, but a son. If thou be the son, thou art also the heir of God through Christ.
       Notwithstanding, when ye knew not God ye did service unto them, which by nature were no Goddes. But now seeing ye know God (yee rather are known of God) how is it that ye turn again unto the weak and beggarly ceremonies, where unto again ye desire afresh to be in bondage? Ye observe days, and months, and times, and years. I am in fear of you, lest I have bestowed on you labour in vain.
      Brethren I beseech you, be ye as I am: for I am as ye are. You have not hurt me at all. Ye know, how through infirmity of the flesh, I preached the Gospell unto you at the first. And my temptation which I suffered by reason of my flesh, ye despised not neither abhorred: but received me as an Angel of God: yee as Christ Jesus. How happy were ye then? for I bear you record that if it had been possible ye would have plucked out your own eyes, and have given them to me. Am I therefore become your enemy, because I tell you the truth?


 And then James and John the sons of Zebedee came unto him, saying: Master: we would that thou shouldest do for us what soever we desire. He said unto them: what would ye I should do unto you? They said to him: grant unto us that we may sit one on thy right hand, and the other on thy left hand, in thy glory. But Jesus said unto them: Ye *wot not what ye ask. Can ye drink of the cup that I shall drink of, and be baptised in the baptism that I shall be baptised in? And they said unto him: that we can. Jesus said unto them: ye shall drink of the cup that I shall drink of and be baptised with the baptism that I shall be baptised in: but to sit on my right hand and on my left hand is not mine to give, but to them for whom it is prepared.
      And when the ten heard that, they began to disdain at James and John. But Jesus called them unto him, and said to them: ye know that they which seem to bear rule among the gentiles, reign as lords over them. And they that be great among them, exercise authority over them. So shall it not be among you, but whosoever of you will be great among you, shall be your minister. And whosoever will be chief, shall be servant unto all. For even the son of man came not to be ministered unto: but to minister, and to give his life for the redemption of many.


 The woman said unto him: Sir I perceive that thou art a Prophet. Our fathers worshipped in this mountain: and ye say that in Jerusalem is the place where men ought to worship. Jesus said unto her: woman believe me, the hour cometh, when ye shall neither in this mountain nor yet at Jerusalem, worship the father. Ye worship ye *wot not what: we know what we worship. For salvation cometh of the Jewes. But the hour cometh and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the father in spirit, and in truth. For verily such the father requireth to worship him. God is a spirit, and they that worship him, must worship him, in spirit and truth.


     Let no man therefore trouble your consciences about meat and drink or for a piece of an holy day, as the holy day of the new moon, or of the Sabbath days, which are nothing but shadows of things to come: but the body is in Christ. Let no man make you shoot at a wrong mark which after his own imagination walketh in the humbleness and holiness of angels, things which he never saw: causeless puffed up with his fleshly mind, and holdeth not the head, whereof all the body by joints and couples receiveth nourishment and is knit together, and increaseth with the increasing that cometh of God.

      Wherefore if ye be dead with Christ from ordinances of the world, why as though ye yet lived in the world, are ye led with traditions of them that say? Touch not, taste not, handle not: which all perish with the using of them and are after the commandments and doctrines of men: which things have the similitude of wisdom in chosen holiness and humbleness, and in that they spare not the body, and do the flesh no worship unto his need.


As he beheld, he saw the rich men, how they cast in their offerings into the treasury. And he saw also a certain poor widow, which cast in thither two mites. And he said: of a truth I say unto you, this poor widow hath put in more than they all. For they all have of their *superfluity added unto the offering of God: but she, of her penury, hath cast in all the substance that she had.
      As some spake of the temple, how it was garnished with goodly stones and Jewels, he said. The days will come, when of these things which ye see, shall not be left stone upon stone, that shall not be thrown down. And they asked him saying: Master when shall these things be, and what sign will there be, when such things shall come to pass.
      And he said: take heed, that ye be not deceived. For many will come in my name saying: I am he: and the time draweth near. Follow ye not them therefore. But when ye hear of war and of dissension: be not afraid. For these things must first come: but the end followeth not by and by. Then said he unto them: Nation shall rise against nation, and kingdom against kingdom, and great earthquakes shall be in all quarters, and hunger, and pestilence: and fearful things. And great signs shall there be from heaven.


    If the truth of Christ be in me, this rejoicing shall not be taken from me in the regions of Achaia. Wherefore? Because I love you not? God knoweth. Nevertheless what I do, that will I do, to cut away occasion from them which desire occasion, that they might be found like unto us in that wherein they rejoice. For these false apostles are deceitful workers, and fashion them selves like unto the Apostles of Christ. And no marvel, for Satan himself is changed into the fashion of an angel of light. Therefore it is no great thing, though his ministers fashion them selves as though they were the ministers of righteousness: whose end shall be according to their deeds.


The First Epistle of St Paul the Apostle
to the Corinthians

The 10th Chapter

 Brethren I would not that you should be ignorant of this, how that our fathers were all under a cloud, and all passed through the sea, and were all baptised under Moses, in the cloud and in the sea: and did all eat of one spiritual meat, and did all drink of one manner of spiritual drink. And they drank of that spiritual rock that followed them, which rock was Christ. But in many of them had God no delight. For they were overthrown in the wilderness.
     These are examples to us that we should not lust after evil things, as they lusted. Neither be you worshippers of images as were some of them according as it is written: The people sat down to eat and drink, and rose up again to play. Neither let us commit fornication as some of them committed fornication, and were destroyed in one day twenty three thousand. Neither let us tempt Christ, as some of them tempted, and were destroyed of serpents. Neither murmur you as some of them murmured, and were destroyed of the destroyer.
     All these things happened upon them for examples, and were written to put us in remembrance, whom the ends of the world are come upon. Wherefore let him that thinks he stands, take heed least he fall. There has none other temptation taken you, but such as follows the nature of man. But God is faithful, which shall not suffer (allow) you to be tempted above your strength: but shall in the midst of the temptation make a way to escape out. Wherefore my dear beloved, flee from worshipping of idols.
     I speak as unto them which have discretion (common sense) , judge you what I say. Is not the cup of blessing which we bless, partaking of the blood of Christ? Is not the bread which we break, partaking of the body of Christ? Because that we (though we be many) yet are one bread, and one body in as much as we all are partakers of one bread. Behold Israel which walks carnally: Are not they which eat of the sacrifice, partakers of the altar?
     What say I then? that the image is anything? or that it which is offered to images is anything? No but I say, that these things which the gentiles offer, they offer to devils, and not to God.

     And I would not that you should have fellowship with the devils. you cannot drink of the cup of the Lord, and of the cup of the devils. you can not be partakers of the Lords table, and of the table of devils. Either shall we provoke the Lord? Or are we stronger then he? All things are lawful unto me, but all things are not expedient (helpful). All things are lawful to me, but all things edify not. Let no man seek his own profit: but let every man seek anothers wealth.
     Whatsoever is sold in the market, that eat, and ask no questions for conscience sake. For the earth is the Lords, and all that therein is. If any of them which believe not, bid you to a feast, and if you be disposed to go, whatsoever is set before you: eat, asking no question for conscience sake. But and if any man say unto you: this is dedicate unto idols, eat not of it for his sake that showed it, and for hurting of conscience. The earth is the Lords and all that therein is. Conscience I say, not thine: but the conscience of that other. For why should my liberty be judged of another mans conscience? For if I take my part with thanks: why am I evil spoken of for that thing wherefore I give thanks?
     Whether therefore you eat or drink, or whatsoever you do, do all to the praise of God. See that you give none occasion of evil, neither to the Jewes, nor yet to the gentiles, neither to the congregation of God: even as I please all men in all things, not seeking mine own profit, but the profit of many, that they might be saved. Follow me as I do Christ

The Gospel of St John

The 6th Chapter

  And when they had found him on the other side of the sea, they said unto him: Rabbi, when came you hither? Jesus answered them and said: verily, verily I say unto you: you seek me, not because you saw the miracles: but because you ate of the loaves, and were filled. Labor not for the meat which perishes, but for the meat that endures unto everlasting life, which meat the son of man shall give unto you. For him has God the father sealed.
     Then said they unto him: what shall we do that we might work the works of God? Jesus answered and said unto them. This is the work of God, that you believe on him, whom he has sent. They said unto him: what sign show you then, that we may see and believe you? What do you work? Our fathers did eat Mannain in the desert, as it is written: He gave them bread from heaven to eat. Jesus said unto them: verily, verily I say unto you: Moses gave you not bread from heaven: but my father gives you the true bread from heaven. For the bread of God is he which comes down from heaven and gives life unto the world.
     Then said they unto him: Lord, evermore give us this bread. And Jesus said unto them: I am that bread of life. He that comes to me shall not hunger: and he that believes on me shall never thirst. But I said unto you: that you have seen me, and yet believe not. All that the father gives me shall come to me: and him that comes to me, I cast not away. For I came down from heaven: not to do mine own will, but his will which has sent me. And this is the fathers will which has sent me, that of all which he has given me, I should lose nothing: but should raise it up again at the last day. And this is the will of him that sent me: that every man which sees the son and believes on him, have everlasting life. And I will raise him up at the last day. The Jewes then murmured at him, because he said: I am that bread which is come down from heaven. And they said: Is not this Jesus the son of Joseph, whose father and mother we know? How is it then that he says, I came down from heaven? Jesus answered and said unto them. Murmur not between yourselves. No man can come to me except the father which has sent me, draw him. And I will raise him up at the last day. It is written in the Prophets, that they shall all be taught of God. Every man therefore that has heard and has learned of the father comes unto me. Not that any man has seen the father, save he which is of God, the same has seen the father.
     Verily, verily I say unto you, he that believes on me, has everlasting life. I am that bread of life. Your fathers did eat Manna in the wilderness and are dead? This is that bread which comes from heaven that he which eats of it, should also not die. I am that living bread which came down from heaven. If any man eat of this bread, he shall live forever. And the bread that I will give, is my flesh, which I will give for the life of the world.
     And the Jewes strove among themselves saying: How can this fellow give us his flesh to eat? Then Jesus said unto them: Verily, verily I say unto you, except you eat the flesh of the son of man, and drink his blood, you shall not have life in you. Whosoever eats my flesh, and drinks my blood, has eternal life: and I will raise him up at the last day. For my flesh is meat indeed: and my blood is drink indeed. He that eats my flesh and drinks my blood, dwells in me and I in him. As the living father has sent me, even so live I by my father: and he that eats me shall live by me. This is the bread which came from heaven: not as your fathers have eaten Manna and are dead. He that eats of this bread, shall live ever.
     These things said he in the synagogue as he taught in Capernaum. Many therefore of his disciples: when they had heard this, said: this is an hard saying: who can abide the hearing of it? Jesus knew in himself, that his disciples murmured at it, and said unto them: does this offend you? What and if you shall see the son of man ascend up where he was before? It is the spirit that quickens, the flesh profits nothing. The words that I speak unto you, are spirit and life. But there are some of you that believe not. For Jesus knew from the beginning, which they were that believed not, and who should betray him. And he said: Therefore said I unto you: that no man can come unto me, except it were given unto him of my father.
     From that time many of his disciples went back and walked no more with him. Then said Jesus to the twelve: will you also go away? Then Simon Peter answered: Master to whom shall we go? You have the words of eternal life, and we believe and know that you are Christ the son of the living God. Jesus answered them: Have not I chosen you twelve, and yet one of you is the devil? He spoke it of Judas Iscariot the son of Simon. For he it was that should betray him, and was one of the twelve


 And Jesus went out and departed from the temple: and his disciples came to him, for to show him the building of the temple. Jesus said unto them: see ye not all these things? Verily I say unto you: there shall not be here left one stone upon another, that shall not be cast down.
      And as he sat upon the mount Olivet, his disciples came unto him secretly saying. Tell us when these things shall be: and what sign shall be of thy coming, and of the end of the world? And Jesus answered, and said unto them: take heed that no man deceive you. For many shall come in my name saying: I am Christ: and shall deceive many. Ye shall hear of wars, and of the fame of wars: but see that ye be not troubled. For all these things must come to pass, but the end is not yet. For nation shall rise against nation, and realm against realm: and there shall be pestilence, hunger and earthquakes in all quarters. All these are the beginning of sorrows.

TRUE WORD...Oseas (thats Hosea chp 8 :14 for you kjv folks)

The Lord will have no pleasure therin: but will remember their wickednesses, and punish their sins. Israel turneth again into Egypt, they have forgotten him that made them, they build churches, and Juda maketh many strong cities: therefore will I send a fire into their cities, and it shall consume their places.

  These are the words that God spake unto Jeremie: Stand under the gates of the Lords house, and cry out these words there, with a loud voice, and say: Hear the word of the Lord all ye of Judah, that go in this door, to honor the Lord. Thus saith the Lord of Hosts the God of Israel. Amend your ways and your counsels, and I will let you dwell in this place. Trust not in the false lying words, saying: HERE IS THE TEMPLE of the Lord, HERE IS THE TEMPLE of the Lord, HERE IS THE TEMPLE of the Lord.

 Are ye not aware that YE ARE THE TEMPLE OF GOD, and how that the spirit of God dwelleth in you? If any man defile the temple of God, him shall God destroy. For the temple of God is holy, which temple ye are. Let no man deceive him self. If any man seem wise among you, let him be a fool in this world, that he may be wise. For the wisdom of this world is foolishness with God. For it is written: he compasses the wise in their craftiness. And again, God knoweth the thoughts of the wise that they be vain. Therefore let no man rejoice in men. For all things are yours, whether it be Paul, either Apollos, either Cephas: whether it be the world, or life, either death, whether they be present things or things to come: all are yours: and ye are Christs, and Christ is Gods


And the high Priests and all the council sought for witness against Jesu, to put him to death and found none. Yet many bare false witness against him, but their witness agreed not together. And there arose certain and brought false witness against him, saying. We heard him say: I will destroy this temple made with hands, and within three days I will build another, made without hands. But their witness agreed not together.


 How be it he that is highest of all, dwelleth not in temples made with hands, as saith the Prophet: Heaven is my seat, and earth is my footstool, what house will ye build for me saith the Lord? or what place is it that I should rest in hath not my hand made all these things?


 Paul stood in the midst of Marce street and said: ye men of Athens, I perceive that in all things ye are too superstitious. For as I passed by and beheld the manner how ye worship your gods, I found an altar wherein was written: unto the unknown God. Whom ye then ignorantly worship him show I unto you: God that made the world and all that are in it, seeing that he is Lord of heaven and earth, he dwelleth not in temples made with hands, neither is worshipped with mens hands, as though he needed of any thing, seeing he himself giveth life and breath to all men everywhere, and hath made of one blood all nations of men, for to dwell on all the face of the earth, and hath assigned before, how long time, and also the ends of their inhabitation, that they should seek God, if they might feel and find him, though he be not far from every one of us. For in him we live, move and have your being, as certain of your own Poets said. For we are also his generation. For as much then as we are the generation of God, we ought not to think that the Godhead is like unto gold, silver or stone, graven by craft and imagination of man.
      And the time of this ignorance God regarded not. but now he biddeth all men everywhere repent, because he hath appointed a day, in the which he will judge the world according to righteousness, by that man whom he hath appointed, and hath offered faith to all men, after that he had raised him from death.


  And the sixth Angel blew, and I heard a voice from the four corners of the golden altar, which is before God, saying to the sixth angel, which had the trumpet: Loose the four Angels, which are bound in the great river Euphrates. And the four Angels were loosed which were prepared for an hour, for a day, for a month, and for a year, for to slay the third part of men. And the number of horsemen of war, were twenty times ten thousand. And I heard the number of them: And thus I saw the horses in a vision, and them that sat on them having fiery habergeons of a Jacinth colour, and brimstone, and the heads of the horses were as the heads of lions. And out of their mouths went forth fire and smoke and brimstone. And of these three was the third part of men killed: that is to say, of fire, smoke, and brimstone, which proceeded out of the mouths of them: For their power was in their mouths and in their tails: for their tails were like unto serpents, and had heads, and with them they did hurt: And the remnant of the men which were not killed by these plagues, repented not of the deeds of their hands that they should not worship devils, and images of gold, and silver, and brass, and stone, and of wood, which neither can see, neither hear, neither go. Also they repented not of their murder, and of their sorcery neither of their fornication neither of their theft.


  In the fifteenth year of the reign of Tiberius the Emperor, Pontius Pilate being leftenant of *Jurie, and Herod being Tetrach of Galilee, and his brother Philip Tetrach in Jturea and in the region of Traconitis, and Lysaniah the Tetrach of Abilene, when Annas and Caiphas were the high priests the word of God came unto John the son of Zacharias in the wilderness. And he came into all the coasts about Jordan, preaching the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins, as it is written in the book of the sayings of Esaias the Prophet which sayeth: The voice of a crier in wilderness: prepare the way of the Lord, make his paths straight. Every valley shall be filled, and every mountain and hill shall be brought low. And crooked things shall be made straight: and the rough ways shall be made smooth: and all flesh shall see the saviour sent of God.
      Then said he to the people that were come to be baptised of him: O generation of vipers, who hath taught you to fly away from the wrath to come? Bring forth due fruits of repentance, and begin not to say in yourselves, we have Abraham to our father. For I say unto you: God is able of these stones to raise up children unto Abraham. Now also is the axe laid unto the root of the trees: so that every tree which bringeth not forth good fruit, shall be hewn down, and cast into the fire.
      And the people asked him saying: What shall we do then? He answered and said unto them: He that hath two coats, let him part with him that hath none: and he that hath meat, let him do likewise.
      Then came there publicans to be baptised, and said unto him: Master, what shall we do? And he said unto them: require no more than that which is appointed unto you.
      The soldiers likewise demanded of him saying: and what shall we do? And he said to them: Do violence to no man: neither trouble any man wrongfully: but be content with your wages.
      As the people were in a doubt, and all men disputed in their hearts of John, whether he were very Christ: John answered and said to them all: I baptise you with water but a stronger than I cometh after me, whose shoe latchet I am not worthy to unloose: he will baptise you with the holy ghost, and with fire: which hath his fan in his hand, and will purge his floor, and will gather the corn in to his barn: but the chaff will he burn with fire that never shall be quenched. And many other things in his exhortation preached he unto the people.     







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